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Roy Raymond

The lesson that travels

Solving your own problem is a fine way to start a company and a poor way to find its customer. Raymond built a lingerie store for men; the business was worth building only once someone pointed it at women.

Raymond was a Stanford MBA working in marketing at Vicks when, by his own account, he went into a department store to buy lingerie for his wife and felt watched and embarrassed. The store he opened in June 1977 in the Stanford Shopping Center — with $40,000 from a bank and $40,000 from relatives — was designed to fix that: Victorian wood panelling, a boudoir feel, sales assistants who would help a man choose, and a catalogue so that he need not visit at all. The name was meant to evoke a nineteenth-century respectability with something underneath it. Within five years there were six stores, a mail-order operation and about $6M of sales.

There was also no money. Raymond had built a business with a real insight and a mistaken customer — the man buying for a woman is a narrow, occasional buyer — and by 1982 it was close to bankruptcy. Les Wexner, whose The Limited had visited the stores and seen what Raymond had not, bought the company that year for roughly $1M. Wexner re-aimed it at women buying for themselves, took it into malls, and within a decade it was doing over $1B. Raymond took his million into a children's retailer, My Child's Destiny, which failed in 1986 and cost him most of what he had. He founded a children's bookseller after that, which was also unsuccessful.

In August 1993, at forty-six, Raymond took his own life by jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge. The story is often told as a parable about selling too early, and I am wary of that framing: he sold because the business was failing, not because he undervalued it, and the version of Victoria's Secret that became enormous was not the one he built. What he did do was see that the presentation of lingerie was the product, and that a store could be designed around how a purchase feels rather than what it contains. That insight survived him. The customer he designed it for did not.

§01The hard calls

  1. 1977

    Open a lingerie store designed for men to shop in comfortably, with a catalogue for those who would rather not shop at all.

    A genuine insight about presentation and a mistaken one about the customer. Six stores and about $6M of sales in five years, and a business that could not fund itself.

  2. 1982

    Sell the company to Les Wexner's The Limited for roughly $1M rather than let it fail.

    The business survived and, re-aimed at women, became the largest intimates retailer in America. Raymond kept none of it.

  3. 1984

    Put the proceeds into a children's retailer, My Child's Destiny, in the same upmarket San Francisco mould.

    Failed within two years. A second business built on the founder's own taste rather than on evidence about the customer.

One of these is set up as a tutorial — you make the call before you find out what Roy did.

Face the decision